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before we remove instructions we shouldmake the device specific pages.
Kindle info is probably most important, but hardest to keep up to data. Check other sites (like StandardEbooks) to see if they have more current info.
Kepub should be comming soon.
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| On tablets and ereaders, you might not be prompted for where to save your file, and we have had reports of different locations being used from time to time, or by different software. You might need to look around in your downloaded files areas. | ||
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| * **Use “Send to Kindle”**: Authorize your sender email address, download EPUB or Kindle file to your computer or phone, and email it from the authorized account to your Kindle account. Amazon processes and delivers the book to the device. |
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| * **Use “Send to Kindle”**: Authorize your sender email address, download EPUB or Kindle file to your computer or phone, and email it from the authorized account to your Kindle account. Amazon processes and delivers the book to the device. | |
| * **Use “Send to Kindle”**: Authorize your sender email address, download EPUB3 or Kindle file to your computer or phone, and email it from the authorized account to your Kindle account. Amazon processes and delivers the book to the device. |
- some folks have no idea about the send to kindle address, add url.
- do kindle files work with send-to-kindle?
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on a general level I agree with Ross that this page feels too wordy. quite a lot too wordy imo. |
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They have https://standardebooks.org/help/how-to-use-our-ebooks which is largely similar in content, but different in that they don't have the .txt to fall back on. I figured a lot of this would be re-written once the PDF conversion tool is in place. We could have dedicated pages for best-selling devices, per generation and platform. We could also have dedicated pages per file format with discussions of their pluses and minuses. But the first step is cleaning up and tightening this page. |
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@eshellman Do you want to have the separate device-specific pages written and added before accepting this PR? Or would you prefer to close this PR, wait for the device-specific pages to be written/added and THEN have this update made to the main page? (I just want to close the PR, one way or the other.) |
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so the idea is to have a separate idea for each single device? sure that's a good idea? The way standardebboks has done it seems pretty good to me. Just one good page to explain how to use the ebooks. Clear sections and concise writing. Simple. Maybe a table with links to the different sections on top of the page is missing in their design. If we were to do it that way too, we could then put a link to that page in the "About" drop-down in the header (instead of "Kindle&ereaders) and also link to it from the page of particular book ("How to read" on that page could be a bit more clearly styled as a link (I suspect many people are not even noticing that blue little questionmark icon right now)) IMO that would be most straightforward, almost obvious way to solve the problem for users. It's also easy to implement, except someone need to write up a good page. I guess we could take standardebook's page as a starting point and then add/adjust |
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some amazon team wanted to talk to someone - I talked to a product manager who wanted to connect me to the team. haven't heard back! |
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@eshellman sure you wanted to post that comment here? I don't quite see the connection between Amazon production managers and the discussion |
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discussion is about device oriented help pages. The Amazon team in question is Kindle.
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As I noted elsewhere, I will try to take that on, assuming that the Amazon person gets back to you. I would love to have a series of videos, or screenshots that show 'how to put PG books on your kindle', but doing that just for current Mac and Windows would be tough, much less for older versions of the OSs or any of the *inxen variants. A well scripted video might be super useful as well. |
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isn't the information we need available online? |
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The way that PG serves books isn't actually the most common case, from what I can tell. The lack of a 'checkout' process and the plethora of additional formats presents a different set of decisions and UI selections. Not to mention the use of 2nd-hand older devices (like this 4th-gen Kindle sitting next to me) means that side loading strategies are not always easy to find. |
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The page has gotten too long. Later follow up pages can include device-specific notes.