Eilola-2010-210 #1490
Eilola-2010-210 #1490
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@AnnikaTjuka would you mind moderating? |
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Sure. @chrzyki Would you have time to review the list? |
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Yes, happy to do the review. I'll submit the review tomorrow. |
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Just a couple of very small observations/comments.
| Eilola-2010-210-5 5 achievement saavutus 3.71 7.49 5.04 0.32 5.4 3.3 6.65 3.77 0.35 4.48 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-6 6 adventure seikkailu 2.91 6.16 3.3 0.22 4.55 2.73 6.26 3.91 0.29 3.75 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-7 7 affection hellyys 4093 AFFECTION 3.69 7.61 5.69 0.2 5.68 3.36 7.93 6.11 0.24 4.91 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-8 8 agony tuska 1783 PAIN 2.33 0.76 5.15 0.73 5.11 3.19 1.02 5.49 1.08 5.24 |
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Based on the Finnish, mapping to PAIN seems fine, based on the English gloss not so much. I'd tentatively lean towards unmapping.
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We also have 5 unmapped lists containing "agony" so perhaps I'll unmap here and instead add a new concept?
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Yeah, had the same thought while looking up the concept but forgot to jot it down. I agree. :)
| Eilola-2010-210-17 17 asshole persläpi 4.54 1.35 3.01 5.21 3.08 1.49 1.26 2.53 5.92 3.32 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-18 18 baby vauva 1289 BABY 4.99 6.53 4.23 0.34 0.49 4.49 7.13 5.44 0.55 0.51 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-19 19 barrel tynnyri 2548 BARREL 1.51 3.8 0.62 0.22 0.56 1.69 4.12 0.89 0.78 0.34 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-20 20 bastard äpärä 1947 BASTARD 5.3 1.34 3.29 5.11 4.24 1.47 1.5 2.87 5.81 2.77 |
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Interesting case again of original meaning & 'swear word meaning'. Our concept set definition is restricted to the former, the intended meaning here is probably the latter?
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I left it here because we also mapped it in Janschewitz-2008-460. My reasoning back then was that the swear word has the exact same meaning as the neutral term, it's only due to social factors that it is offensive. And the same wouldn't hold for other curses a person can be called such as "bitch", "dick" or "asshole".
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Makes sense, yeah. I forgot about Janschewitz, sorry. Thanks for taking the time to explain!
| Eilola-2010-210-37 37 cock kyrpä 4.73 1.87 2.57 4.22 1.96 3.19 2.24 2.56 5.46 0.92 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-38 38 column pylväs 2045 COLUMN 1.86 4.05 0.6 0.14 1.45 1.78 4.13 0.79 0.37 0.48 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-39 39 comfort mukavuus 3.94 7.09 3.96 0.2 5.56 4.28 7.58 4.65 0.3 4.81 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-40 40 computer tietokone 3086 COMPUTER 6.85 4.95 0.91 0.18 0.56 6.77 5.02 1.48 0.27 0.33 |
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There is a hidden character here after the Finnish word (0x20).
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Thank you for catching that!
| Eilola-2010-210-82 82 funeral hautajaiset 3336 FUNERAL 2.35 0.86 5.7 1.09 1.58 2.31 1.28 5.93 1.03 1.45 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-83 83 gift lahja 2982 GIFT 3.37 6.72 3.25 0.16 1.45 3.82 7.05 3.73 0.23 1.04 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-84 84 git typerys 2.99 1.83 1.84 3.41 4.57 2.91 1.92 2.66 3.71 3.5 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-85 85 glass lasi 5.2 4.07 0.71 0.21 0.75 5.85 4.73 1.12 0.25 0.33 |
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I originally didn't map it because it also refers to the vessel rather than just the substance and our concept description is limited to the substance. But since English is also polysemous in that case it should probably still be mapped?
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That was more or less my line of thinking, yeah. Might be worthwhile to check other GLASS mappings to see whether we're consistent with respect to that.
| Eilola-2010-210-86 86 glory kunnia 2.13 6.75 4.18 0.31 6.32 2.56 6.18 4.36 0.35 5.79 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-87 87 grave hauta 1773 GRAVE 1.83 1.17 3.69 0.52 1.16 2.37 1.76 4.03 1 0.82 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-88 88 grief murhe 1668 GRIEF 2.63 1.19 5.46 0.66 5.8 2.9 1.3 4.82 0.95 5.09 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-89 89 guilt syyllisyys 134 FAULT 3.43 1.29 4.86 0.63 6.11 2.65 1.66 5.13 1.11 5.53 |
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Hmm... I'd tend towards unmapping.
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Could also be a good candidate for a new concept, we have some unmapped instances still waiting around. This would mean remapping some existing mappings from 134 FAULT. I'll open an issue so we can discuss?
| Eilola-2010-210-106 106 injury vamma 2947 DAMAGE (INJURY) 3.22 1.51 3.31 0.34 2.02 2.76 1.6 3.1 1.87 1.57 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-107 107 insult loukkaus 3.51 1.31 4.66 1.95 5.19 3 1.4 4.65 1.67 4.96 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-108 108 intercourse yhdyntä 2.98 5.6 4.47 1.1 1.74 2.99 5.89 5.22 2.29 1.33 | ||
| Eilola-2010-210-109 109 jelly hyytelö 2.23 4.79 0.68 0.2 0.57 1.67 4.12 0.92 0.53 0.5 |
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Likewise, hidden character at the end of the Finnish word.
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Changes are looking good, thank you! |
Pull request checklist
concepticon notlinked --gloss "NEW_GLOSS"Additional information
Adding Eilola-2010-210 based on Eilola & Havelka (2019) "Affective norms for 210 British English and Finnish nouns". Closes #1486.