Question: Replacing Matrix on my server

[maxwell-kalin]

Hi, i wanted to compare Wire with Matrix myself since the comparison table on your website is outdated.

I have a Debian 13.1 Host with 32 GB RAM 1TB SSD and 12 Cores with 2.5 GHz

i have never used kubernetes but are ready to learn it for the deployment but i need to make sure its viable at all.

so, i have to ask following questions:

• Can i host a federated instance (with calls) with above specs?
• Can i host my ~100 users on it?
• Can i have Spaces (discord calls this Servers) and subspaces?

thanks for your time.

• • Lukas

[julialongtin]

So, i don't know about spaces. Ram will be tight, but doable. We do hard require ubuntu (in VMs is fine). Load souds reasonable, but why federate?

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[maxwell-kalin]

the ubuntu requirement is not good, but doable... i dont get the "why federate" section, i mean thats a good thing to have in general.
I want to host communities and people who join my community should not be forced to also join my server. Why host "Chat silo nr200000" is a better question imo

[maxwell-kalin]

i also wanna help update this https://wire.com/en/wire-vs-element

i am honestly a matrix user, but i wanna try wire anyway because of two reasons:

• know your "enemy" ( its not literal, i like wire because its open source and selfhostable, competition is good )
• if wire is able to run on my server, i might even switch from matrix if my requirements are met

[julialongtin]

This all sounds sane to me. note that federation is currently a bit bumpy, as it requires MLS, and we're still chasing the corner cases out of it. As a debian user for the last 25 years, I don't know of any 'ubuntuisms'. Debian should be doable, bit more work; we ship all of the ubuntu packages we depend on in a debian-style repo, and our automation uses that, that's the 'biggest' known issue. If you have trouble, we're glad to help. :)

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