AMD Radeon 530 and Future Ideas

[netblock]

A continuation of the thread in here.

@chris1892006 I do eventually want to do a UEFI and AGESA editor, but my plate's full with YAABE. Maybe in a couple years. (Though not quite what you were talking about, I do plan for further GPU-side UEFI exposure and other features such as GOP embedding; maybe 0.8.0?)

If you're asking for TDP options on the Radeon 530, there seem to be some things to try /vbios_rom_header/atom_rom_header_v1_1/atom_master_data_table_v1_1/atom_pplib_powerplaytable_v5/atom_pplib_extended_header_v9/atom_pplib_powertune_table_v1/TDP

For your APUs, a4-6210, a8-7410, and a12-9720p, there are APU-related tables such as integrated_system_info, but I don't have any APU bioses so I'd be going in blind.

There is still stuff left to do for 0.7.0 (such as the groundwork for a basic menu ribbon and savable settings), but I don't expect them to be amazingly complex, so it may come in two weeks.

[chris1892006]

@netblock Thank you so much! I wish I may donate to you to accelerate the UEFI System BIOS Editor that has easy access to the PlatformACPI Table? For TDP Adjustment & Thermal limit adjustment for above said AMD APU's & Possible Ryzen+ Control?

Integrated_System_Info?

Please Advise on these SYSTEM BIOS for AMD APU's for TDP & Thermal Limit Control.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/nzrvsdaa1uhdyjd/Lenovo+11e+2nd+Gen+&+110-15ACL+&+320-15ABR+CH341A+MOD+BIOS.zip/file

[chris1892006]

Sorry, I have a friend who is working on compiling, v0.7.0? or what is it that we are compiling? I have no idea how to do it, really. I tried & received error after error. I just don't have experience with that sort of thing.

If the Hex Offset in YAABE said 5978, 597D, 5982, 5987, and 598C, then I would be able to not have to resort to Hawaii BIOS Reader. Instead, yours says for DPM 2 alone is 58E3... which it's 597D on Hawaii BIOS Reader.

[netblock]

View the compilation instructions on the main page of yaabe; the README.md.

You're looking in the wrong spot. The 0x5978~0x5990 area is vddc-sclk dependency.

/vbios_rom_header/atom_rom_header_v1_1/atom_master_data_table_v1_1/atom_pplib_powerplaytable_v5/vddc_sclk/

As to what you should edit to actually have clocks change, I have no idea.

[chris1892006]

Thanks. Yeah I changed it in the HxD and then checked the value in YAABE & copied it which is 54464 for 1200mhz and it didn't change it in Hawaii BIOS Reader. Maybe I did something wrong. I hope I can see if my friend will compile, what v0.7.0? and open my beloved AMD Radeon 530 VBIOS, finally! Thanks

[chris1892006]

Is there anyway to run my AMD Radeon R5 M430 at PCIe x8 2.0 @ x8 2.0 because it runs only PCIe x4 2.0? How do I get it to run PCIe x8 2.0? Thanks

Is it because the iGPU & discrete GPU share the x8 PCIe bus? x4 each?

Can I force the iGPU to PCIe 1.1 x1, and give all the bandwidth to the discrete gpu?
110-15ACL_R5_iGPU_VBIOS.zip

[chris1892006]

We cannot compile YAABE because it contains errors...

build stopped: subcommand failed

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hi buddy. Why would my Lenovo Ideapad 110-15ACL AMD Radeon R5 M430 report PCIe 2.0 x4 when Techpowerup says : Bus Interface
PCIe 3.0 x8

Thanks

I found PCIEGen in /vbios_rom_header/atom_rom_header_v1_1/atom_master_data_table_v1_1/atom_pplib_powerplaytable_v5/atom_pplib_si_clock_info_array/clockInfo [00]/ & I set it to 3 from 2, but how to define the PCIe Link Width of x8 vs the current, x4?

Update Lenovo Ideapad 110-15ACL with AMD A8-7410 apparently has only PCIe 2 x4.

[netblock]

It belongs to capsandsettings there. see atom/pplib.h and atom/powerplay.h for more info.

[chris1892006]

Sorry, I'm new to github. May you link me to these atom/pplib.h & atom/powerplay.h?

[chris1892006]

Is it possible to write to the bios on hawaii r9 290 to make the hdmi primary and not displayport? Thanks

[netblock]

Unsure. Maybe? I hope so. I may not have the appropriate table exposed yet.

[chris1892006]

I cannot seem to get any of my OntarioGenericVBIOS to show all information in YAABE either. It's the integrated graphics in system bios without discrete option on the 11e but the 110-15acl doesn't have anything else, it's just the discrete & the OntarioGenericVBIOS, I think... I need it to show all information please. Thanks PS - Cannot wait for 0.7.0. kind sir! Can I subscribe to updates on your GitHub, if so, how?
110-15ACL_R5_iGPU_VBIOS.zip
ThinkPad_11e_2nd_gen_AMD_R3_iGPU_VBIOS.zip

[chris1892006]

Hello @netblock sup bro? how ya doing? I found out that on v0.6.0, the save button doesn't work and only save as works. Also how do I setup a custom thermal policy? It doesn't show anything & I cannot limit the temperatures of the core & vrm of my r9 290. It throttles at 95*C, I believe. I need to reduce that so the core & vrm doesn't overheat. TjMax doesn't do anything & nonclockinfo setting thermal to 1 and forced to 1 & max temperature 84 does nothing except screw up the PCIe from 3.0 to 1.1

[netblock]

Saving works fine for me; do you have write permissions to that directory?

Thermal policy is empty because /vbios_rom_header/atom_rom_header_v1_1/atom_master_data_table_v1_1/atom_pplib_powerplaytable_v5/NumCustomThermalPolicy is probably 0.

Note, the driver doesn't use this atom_pplib_thermal_state table. My bios editor also does not support adding tables.

Hawaii seems to have driver-coded temperatures. Soft powerplay and driver modding may be the correct way for this. (try the Radeon-ID drivers?)

[chris1892006]

@netblock thanks but when I click save it saves, but when I re-open the file, the changes I made didn't reflect in the file in yaabe. Also I cannot figure out why now with combination of using hawaii bios reader and yaabe it gimps the PCIe x16 from 3.0 to 1.1 under load. I think it's hawaii bios reader, but testing is on going. Also I tested yaabe alone, didn't touch hawaii bios reader and so far so good but it hasn't gimped the PCIe x16 slot to 1.1 yet, it's at 3.0 currently. So far setting 0 high low leakage & setting 0 offset VDDC results in PCIe 3.0 but so far I just set the thermal policy which works by the way, just need to define a custom dpm / voltage states so it can go to a lower voltage when approaching the TjMax. Testing is on going but I have now set the thermal policy and the gpu core clock is sitting at 300mhz at idle voltage dpm 0 at full speed 3d mode for some reason...

UPDATE Save function works. Driver may of became corrupted after applying thermal policy. Gonna configure bios fresh, flash, then install GCN R.ID 23.11.1 & test.

[chris1892006]

@netblock The hex offset location and data is incorrect here on the newly compiled version...

516A is 0C 5C 01, but your app says 5C 01 90...
AMD_RADEON_530_VBIOS_ORIGINAL_UNTOUCHED.zip

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hi, can u help figure out why vega igpu & amd r3, r5, r7 igpu gfx all are zero'd out on the in the hex and why most of the yaabe is empty with igpu vbios Powerplayinfo?

[netblock]

iGPU vbioses store their data a little differently; I haven't worked on them yet.

I also don't have iGPU vbioses cause TPU doesn't seem to have them.

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hi, I installed yaabe on my 11e lenovo and I cannot open yaabe.exe, what are the requirements to run the .exe?

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hello good sir. The new version v0.7.0 has a visibility issue where it's hard to see, it's too faint. Can you fix it?

[netblock]

I'm afraid there's not much that I can do to fix that; that sounds like an issue internal to GTK, perhaps the bit that interacts with the graphics driver.

Perhaps your graphics driver is old? I get a similar issue when I launch YAABE on my nvidia Kepler GPU in windows10 (nvidia 473.47), but not on my AMD Navi (24.9.1).

You could see if using the default theme helps. In the install directory, edit etc/gtk-4.0/settings.ini and remove the gtk-theme-name line. Let me know if this helps or not because I could make an option on the install wizard that makes the default GTK theme the default for YAABE.

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hi netblock. Loving your app so much! I hope soon you'll have The Supreme UEFI BIOS Editor by NetBlock, soon? Thanks

[netblock]

Not any time soon; maybe in a couple years.

I'm currently working on the PSP directory table (pspdirtableoffset) which I hope will lead me to the "discovery" data structure.

[chris1892006]

Hello. May you advise on what these values mean & what do other values do? I want it to thermal throttle at a certain temperature & shutdown at a certain temperature. Please. Thanks

These values result in an instant thermal condition reported by amd radeon settings. Thermal Threshold has been reached.

As we can see here the above custom thermal policy coincide with the fan table hex offset of Rev & Hyst...

[netblock]

That sounds like a firmware bug. What bios are you using? None of the bioses I got from you nor TPU seem to repeat that issue.

want it to thermal throttle at a certain temperature & shutdown at a certain temperature.

(If you are manually editing NumCustomThermalPolicy to do this, you can't; my editor does not (yet) support table composition.)

depending on the generation of GPU (like Hawaii as we've discussed before), the throttle/shutdown values may not be in the vbios at all, but in the driver.

[chris1892006]

@netblock Thanks so much for being so nice & committed to helping me out. That fills my heart with warmth & joy!

It would be insane if you made a UEFI BIOS editor that can easily change the cTDP bro... Maybe in my next life. I hope you're aligned unto the light so as to easily enter unto all eternity & help me out with modding for all eternity bro!

I plan on buying a Powercolor Red Devil AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT
https://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/213591/powercolor-rx5700xt-8192-190808-2

Which I have been looking at the BIOS, I'm looking to changing all the temperature limits in YAABE. Where may they be?

I found some but not all.

Thermal Limit
Edge: 100°C
Hotspot: 110°C
Memory: 105°C
VR Gfx: 115°C
VR Mem 1: 115°C
VR Mem 2: 115°C
VR SOC: 115°C
Shutdown Temp.: 118°C

I found them in the powerplaytable in HxD in the hex code, just not everything in YAABE...

UPDATE - Found them in :
/vbios_rom_header/atom_rom_header_v2_2/atom_master_data_table_v2_1/smu_11_0_powerplay_table/smu11_smcpptable_v8/infrastructure_limits/

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hi, netblock, good day to you sir. May you please integrated the prerequisites and dependencies in the installation of YAABE from now on? A lot of people I suggested the app to cannot get it to open. I don't even really know how I got mine working. Just a suggestion to spread your app far & wide bro!

[netblock]

You may have to do the 'unblock exe' thing in windows.

[chris1892006]

@netblock What is the exact precise procedure to get it to open on any pc? Because I got it to open on my desktop but not my laptop, same exact os & configuration.

[netblock]

https://www.thewindowsclub.com/fix-windows-blocked-access-file

If this isn't the reason, I'm not quite sure why y'all're having issues. The installer should contain everything it needs to run. I haven't tested on windows older than 10.

[chris1892006]

11/4/2024 YAABE TUTORIAL Yet Another Atom Bios Editor For ANY AMD GPU! FROM THE LIGHT COMMAND https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtcorL6SdjQ

[netblock]

I'd make granular changes through multiple flash-test iterations if I were you; you're making a lot of changes that could potentially cause issues. Be scientific about it. I spotted a few things that may potentially cause you trouble such as overdrive max:gfxclkmin and your loadline suggestions.

I also have a 5700, and I recently apparently (hopefully) solved an instantanous symptomless crashing issue by setting all lines' loadline slopes to 4. 3 was way better than 2, and 5 could be better than 4.

A droopy loadline is about making the VRM less aggressive in its voltage correction, which can improve transient response. It moves the transient nominal voltage (the value that matters for power draw) closer to the transient minimum (the value that affects stability). No droop is bad; some is good; too much is bad. Buildzoid a few years back had a good video over this. Here is also a research paper that helped me as well.

For navi timings, for some reason only the 1750MHz strap actually affects anything. The GDDR mode registers in the vram_modules do actually help. For recovering from a bad flash, If you're using an AMD motherboard, you may need to temporarily move the navi into a different pcie slot.

FROM THE LIGHT COMMAND

Since your political opinions are on your youtube, I decided to watch them. Trump is not the person you think he is; he is a false prophet for what he promises. The entire Republican party exists in bad faith. They offer simple easy-to-understand answers to complex hard-to-understand problems that require complex answers to properly solve. Do not forget that people can be convincing liars, so it is better to pay attention to people's actions. Listen to their hands and what is left behind in their wake, not their mouth. As a result I have voted for Kamala Harris; Democrat in general.

I agree on a number of things you've said. I have put as much effort into researching various political topics as I have this bios editor, so I am reasonably versed in many topics, and I am very open to having good-faith discussions over anything, if you ever would like to inquire. Though I request moving this conversation to a different social platform, as I would like to keep this YAABE repository specific to YAABE; if you do reddit, I also go by netblock there.

[chris1892006]

If you desire, may you send me a friend request on discord? https://discord.gg/7ZFNyktZ
It's so pleasing to hear you reply about what you said. I am well pleased of your answer. Yes sir, we of The Light Command agree with you.

As far as YAABE goes, thanks so much! Yeah it was just an example of what is possible. I have more questions, is it possible to copy the 1750 contiguous data and paste it at the 1800, 1875, 2000 positions? I want to try 2084Mhz on memory for 400GB/s.

I get the card today so I will post a video & will follow your recommendations as to keep this on topic with alignment with YAABE alone.

Is it okay with you if I post the video on our Light Command Channel? I do not intend for anyone to watch any other videos other than what I post about AMD Technologies & YAABE.

What do you think about the NAVI fan profile? How do I get it to be linear from 25C to 45C on the fan profile with Zero RPM Fan disabled, set to 0? Do I simply set the minimum PWM to 25% & Target Temperature at 45C? This is so it may get the best possible temperatures, and remain below the temperature limits set.

Thank you, dear NetBlock.

[chris1892006]

@netblock May you advise on how to flash the NAVI RDNA 1 GPU, for instance my 5600 XT? I keep getting Error 0FL01 BIOS signature issue... Thanks

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hi. I couldn't flash the OC left switch, it's signature protected? However the right switch allows for flashing.

I changed only the powerplay shutdown temperature 88C & all infrastructure temperature limits to 84C.

After flashing only those settings, in AMD Radeon Settings Performance Tuning is the FAN SECTION missing all together, Why?

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hi I am trying to get the SoC & UVD frequencies above 1267Mhz for faster encoding but it will not go above 1267Mhz for SoC or UVD, why? Thanks

I got the Soc & UVD to 1267mhz stock max but I want it to remain the same continuous for SoC & UVD... How do I get it to go beyond 1267mhz?

Plus the power consumption for some reason isn't accurate it says it's using 100W when it's clearly probably using more because I have it at 1200mv @ 2020Mhz which is supposed to yield over 2000mhz core & effective, but it's only like 1968mhz instead, changing power doesn't do anything & reducing voltage doesn't do anything either.

[chris1892006]

Comparing loadline_psi1 0x0 0 offset 0 slope to loadline_psi1 0x1C which is 0 offset, 7 slope. Where 0x0 is unstable, 0x1C is stable.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPKaiOY2PV4

[chris1892006]

Can someone study this vbios? Please because its of the same flavor of vbios, very rare find, that can achieve the 675mv dpm0 & 850mv dpm1,2,3 on the MVDDC (memory).

I cannot figure out why the uclk remains at 202mhz ie idle dpm0 frequency, i know its probably soc related avfs in nature but my brain is overloaded, atm to figure it out.

Thanks

Experimental vbios, uclk (memory) is gimped to dpm0 freq under load, core goes to 2.295GHZ but memory remains idle.
AMD_AT~1.ZIP

Update
Figured it out for now, if setting DcBtcSOC min max to 200 it now achieves operational fullspeed 3d uclk frequency. However 200 isn't the most optimal value. I'll figure it out.

[lazye53]

I bought an RX 6600 for $60, but it's giving me artifacts in games, like a black screen, and there are no issues with tests like Furmark. It could be a heavily abused mining card. I bought this knowingly, but I think I can fix it. I can't flash it to VBIOS on Windows in any way. The driver is fine, and GPU-Z shows everything fine. Lowering the clock speed to -400 MHz for games seems to eliminate the artifacts. It's not on the security label, and it appears to have been previously opened. Is there anything I can do?

I'm getting an invalid GPU index error.

It can be seen in the images below.

[chris1892006]

That's normal, that error for that card on amdvbflash, so need to take the card apart essential, and clean the pcb with potentially soap water and a tooth brush, let sit in front of fan for 24 hours, use brand new thermal pads or good new pads unused pads & brand new thermal paste, apply to whole core silicon diode from edge to edge and retest.

Need to create a sppt. I can help, let me know. Check the hotspot & memory temperature.

Send hwinfo screenshot, take it easy if its a factory bios artifacting, it's seen some heat.

What's the card look like take a picture?

[lazye53]

It runs incredibly cold.

Hotspot 79, core 53 degree celsius

[chris1892006]

I'm looking at just over 2ghz @ in the 60C range, with a peak spike of 80c currently im running Telemetry at values of 1 for gfx soc mem0 mem1 & its working faster for sure. Just gotta be careful is all.

[lazye53]

I made my graphics card even worse, this time my fans are not spinning either, I just opened it up, changed the paste and dusted it, I'm about to go crazy. [RX 6600]

My exact problem is as follows. I bought it very cheaply and the person I bought it from told me this but I didn't think much of it, but I was wrong. I think it's probably a chipset problem and I think it would cost a lot to fix it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/12ybtle/radeon_5700_xt_i_have_those_black_flickering/

[chris1892006]

@netblock You should create a discord channel, that would be awesome!

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hi bro, how ya doing man? We never chat anymore hardly, I'm wondering how the next gen iteration of YAABE is coming along bud?

What new features do you plan on featuring & when is it planned to release? By the way, why can't I mod the RDNA 2 BIOS with YAABE & flash it, what is holding us back brother?

By the way, ages ago we talked on Discord. Are you still on there? Please send me a message on there please. heyitschris1987

THANKS

[chris1892006]

I achieved near peak performance on stock memory speeds, I have the coregfxmax telemetry current set to 255 (stock powercolor red dragon 5600 xt) & the SOC & MEM0 & MEM1 set to value of 1... Pssst it's a secret cheat yall, free fps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dhPZEeheYQ

[chris1892006]

Finally achieved greater than my previous best with the RTSS OSD on with HWINFO & Everything running in the background normally I close everything & even close out the Explorer for peak performance, but I beat it without having to do that. This is all the while running below 84*C Hotspot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ureE8v04vdk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMzhMjDRjc4

[lazye53]

If anyone is interested in Twitch streaming, here are my perfect settings: image quality is kept as high as possible, while lag is practically non-existent. I find it extremely stable, and while I'm not sure, I was told the RX 5700XT doesn't have hardware B-frames, but after testing it, I believe B-frames do exist. I suspect two or more B-frames are pushing the encoder, causing frame drops. Here are my 1080P 60fps h264 AVC settings for Twitch.

FillerDataEnable=True MaxNumRefFrames=4 RateControlSkipFrameEnable=False HalfPixel=True QuarterPixel=True EnablePreAnalysis=True PASceneChangeDetectionEnable=True PAPerceptualAQMode=1 PACAQStrength=2 PATemporalAQMode=0 PAFrameSadEnable=True PALongTermReferenceEnable=True PALookAheadBufferDepth=0 HighMotionQualityBoostEnable=True PAHighMotionQualityBoostMode=0 DeBlockingFilter=True BReferenceEnable=True BPicturesPattern=1

[chris1892006]

I have a spare rx 570, can I use it to encode instead of my 5600 xt?

[lazye53]

I have no idea.

[chris1892006]

I get almost no loss at 1080p or 1440p but 4k & beyond hits it by -20fps like here. I get almost 60 fps the whole time without recording.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0Cu85aIPGE

[lazye53]

Recording and streaming are very different. You can even set a 50K bitrate when recording, but on Twitch, setting a maximum bitrate of 8K for an h264 stream and maintaining image quality without sacrificing performance is much more challenging. The video looks great.

[lazye53]

Here are my new values;

Twitch H.264
1920x1080 60fps bitrate = 6000 or 8000 kbps, keyframe interval 2s, preset = quality, PA checked, max B frames = 2

MaxNumRefFrames=4 MaxConsecutiveBPictures=1 BPicturesPattern=2 AdaptiveMiniGOP=true LowLatencyInternal=true RateControlPreanalysisEnable=1 EnableVBAQ=false HighMotionQualityBoostEnable=true DeBlockingFilter=true BReferenceEnable=true HalfPixel=true QuarterPixel=true PAFrameSadEnable=true PALookAheadBufferDepth=31 PAPerceptualAQMode=1 PACAQStrength=2 PATemporalAQMode=2 PASceneChangeDetectionEnable=true

[chris1892006]

I got a new board for my dell g5 se 5505, radeon 5600m. I keep receiving 0FL01 on 2.93+ igorslab trying to flash it, why? Fix available?

[chris1892006]

@lazye53 @sigavey I tried that one u posted and it didn't work either. Said generic error. I tried in safe mode. I used to be able to flash my other motherboard gpu bios but not this one, weird.

[lazye53]

@chris1892006 You can also try this one below.

https://www.overclock.net/threads/amdvbflash-modded.1817620/

[chris1892006]

@lazye53 Thank you. I tried the modded amdvbflash sitll nothing, i cannot flash my 5600m like i could before nothing works.
Any ideas, new commands, new environment or something? I even tried uefi shell amdvbflash.efi no dice. Is there a bios setting preventing it from working? @netblock Thank you so much. Do u know why when i start capturing gameplay does my memory clock drop to 1ghz vs it's normal operation in game at 1.5Ghz? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH9Vm-6QMSY

[chris1892006]

The 1ghz gpu memory bug occurs on stock bios too, weird issue. It drops the fps by 10-15fps as soon as recording begins.

Its the hardware encoder that causes it, because cpu encode doesn't have the same issue. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx7FDQ86-wM

[chris1892006]

Fixed the memory running at 1ghz under encoder load by editing this in YAABE BIOS Editor on Github : /vbios_rom_header/atom_rom_header_v2_2/atom_master_data_table_v2_1/smu_11_0_powerplay_table/smu11_smcpptable_v8/DebugOverrides/enable_freq_link_gfxclk_uclk set to 1 (Enabled)

[chris1892006]

@netblock @lazye53 @WiziBox @Outhawk What does yours say? 256KB or 512KB?

[chris1892006]

I cannot flash this 5600m in windows or linux or uefi shell nothing works.... advice please like know the command to unlock spi rom with v5.0.879.0 amdvbflash?

[chris1892006]

Do you think XPC T20 20w/m k pads are better than paste? @netblock

[sigavey]

Do you think XPC T20 20w/m k pads are better than paste? @netblock

thermal paste is more effective when there is no gap, when there is a gap - a thermal pad

[chris1892006]

I just find that im getting like 1400-1700mhz on the 5600m on the xpc t20 material at 0.5mm thickness. I think paste could achieve higher performance if done right ill have to test it.

[sigavey]

I just find that im getting like 1400-1700mhz on the 5600m on the xpc t20 material at 0.5mm thickness. I think paste could achieve higher performance if done right ill have to test it.

for gpu or memory? if the gasket is better, it means there was a bad pressure or contact surface.

[chris1892006]

How do I fix the frequency voltage curve on 5600M? I know it can do 1070mhz which is operational 1050mhz at 650mv but in game its running 740mv 800mhz core. I just want to fine tune the curve frequency / voltage, how to? How do I tell it to run a certain frequency voltage while throttling on the temp sensors? Thanks

[sigavey]

How do I fix the frequency voltage curve on 5600M? I know it can do 1070mhz which is operational 1050mhz at 650mv but in game its running 740mv 800mhz core. I just want to fine tune the curve frequency / voltage, how to? How do I tell it to run a certain frequency voltage while throttling on the temp sensors? Thanks

A quick way to change - qStaticVoltageOffset (GFX)
b: a larger negative value shifts the curve to the right
c: a larger negative value shifts the curve downwards

[lazye53]

@chris1892006 @netblock @sigavey @WiziBox @Outhawk
I haven't tried static offset, but if you examine the NAVI21 vBIOS, you'll see that AMD uses static offset to determine SOC frequency and voltage. Take a look.

I strongly advise against changing the slowcurve parameters. You'll almost certainly get a GPU crash (black screen, driver failure, etc.) at some point. I don't recommend messing with this too much.

For RDNA1, all the a, b, and c parameters you see are quadratic curves and are obtained using a quadratic equation formula with two unknowns. In RDNA2, some models use PERPART_PIECEWISE_LINEAR_PP_MODE and others use PIECEWISE_LINEAR_PP_MODEL when determining the GPU clock speed. You can't apply this directly to RDNA1.

Changes made with SPPT generally don't do anything beyond changing the numbers. Don't try to increase SOC clock speeds or UVD speeds; it makes no sense and will absolutely not work.

While I'm absolutely certain it's not related to the architecture, I don't know the exact reason why the memory's idle power consumption can't be reduced to 0.0V or very low. A black screen issue occurs on boot.

In RDNA1, GPU clock speeds are generally determined by DFLL, while in RDNA2, PLL is included; I haven't tried this, but anyone can.

Because of AMD's mistakes, I previously tried reaching 1900 MHz VRAM frequency with at least 20 different RX 5700XTs and couldn't achieve it stably. Now, no matter how hard I push it, I never experience any problems. I've helped many people.

Feel free to ask me anything you need help with.

[sigavey]

@chris1892006 @netblock @sigavey @WiziBox @Outhawk I haven't tried static offset, but if you examine the NAVI21 vBIOS, you'll see that AMD uses static offset to determine SOC frequency and voltage. Take a look.

I strongly advise against changing the slowcurve parameters. You'll almost certainly get a GPU crash (black screen, driver failure, etc.) at some point. I don't recommend messing with this too much.

For RDNA1, all the a, b, and c parameters you see are quadratic curves and are obtained using a quadratic equation formula with two unknowns. In RDNA2, some models use PERPART_PIECEWISE_LINEAR_PP_MODE and others use PIECEWISE_LINEAR_PP_MODEL when determining the GPU clock speed. You can't apply this directly to RDNA1.

Changes made with SPPT generally don't do anything beyond changing the numbers. Don't try to increase SOC clock speeds or UVD speeds; it makes no sense and will absolutely not work.

While I'm absolutely certain it's not related to the architecture, I don't know the exact reason why the memory's idle power consumption can't be reduced to 0.0V or very low. A black screen issue occurs on boot.

In RDNA1, GPU clock speeds are generally determined by DFLL, while in RDNA2, PLL is included; I haven't tried this, but anyone can.

Because of AMD's mistakes, I previously tried reaching 1900 MHz VRAM frequency with at least 20 different RX 5700XTs and couldn't achieve it stably. Now, no matter how hard I push it, I never experience any problems. I've helped many people.

Feel free to ask me anything you need help with.

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[lazye53]

@sigavey Where did you get that impression? My aim is to provide general information and contribute to the people here.

My native language is Turkish, and I translated this from Turkish to English.

[lazye53]

I can maintain stability at 1960 MHz memory. At 2000 MHz, I can't maintain stability; bit errors occur. Sometimes games crash (black screen, etc.). In this situation, even if I try 2002 MHz, since the timings will loosen, could I get rid of the bit errors and crashes I experience after 1960 MHz?

I adjust the voltages so precisely that I don't allow any noise. Does anyone have any ideas on this? @netblock @Outhawk @chris1892006 @sigavey

[chris1892006]

Well I think it might have to do with VDDCI MVDDC scaling possibly. I'm testing this now. Trying to get high memory clocks on 5600M.

@netblock Hey bro, how do I disable AVFS for GFX? So when I set the min voltage and max voltage, the curve automatically runs at said voltages / frequencies rather than running different values in AMD Radeon Software.

@lazye53 Do you know how to do the above?

[lazye53]

AvfsGb (GFX) is useless; you don't need to touch it. It doesn't interfere with anything on the graphics card; unnecessary values ​​have been assigned. The only way I know to completely disable avfs is to change /vbios_rom_header/atom_rom_header_v2_2/atom_master_data_table_v2_1/smu_11_0_powerplay_table/smu11_smcpptable_v8/dpm_config/DpmDescriptor [0]: SMU11_PPT8_PPCLK_GFXCLK/VoltageMode: VOLTAGE_MODE_SS : 2 and reset the BtcGbGfxDfll parameters.

Regarding VRAM:

The connection between VDDCI and VDDQ is so delicate that memory training is almost nonexistent on RDNA1; the graphics card memory cannot be trained. The only thing it can do is start the graphics card with bootup_mclk_in10kHz: 875MHz (1750MHz) mclk at startup. There are no advanced training steps in the BIOS, and advanced hardware training is not supported. Basic training is possible between vrefd and vddci, which is visible in all VRAM datasheet information.

0.7*VDDQ = Vrefd

There are values ​​between VDDCI and Vrefd determined by 0 and 1. If you don't adjust this ratio correctly, you will encounter artifacts, driver crashes, and black screen issues. You don't need to overvoltage VDDCI or VDDQ (mvdd). Values ​​for VDDCI are given according to the sscurve curve.

The image below shows the VRAM frequencies according to the required VDDCI voltages. Remember that GDDR6 has dual speeds, meaning 1000 MHz corresponds to 2000 MHz.

Note: The images also show a 6.25mV offset shift for VDDCI.

For example; 850mV ---> 856mV, 875mV ---->881mV, 900mV ----> 906mV

[chris1892006]

Does anyone know how to set the memory from 16gb to 32gb on a 6800 xt ref vbios?

On 5600m its here, I think.
/vbios_rom_header/atom_rom_header_v2_2/atom_master_data_table_v2_1/smu_11_0_powerplay_table/smu11_smcpptable_v8/dpm_config/uclk/

AMD.RX6800XT.16384.201007.zip

PS - how to get amd radeon tuning on 5600m on latest 26.1.1 drivers or new drivers in general? All overdrive features are enabled in the vbios.

[chris1892006]

Notice anything out of the ordinary with thermals or clocks or anything?
I'm using XPC T20 on the Silicon. It's a 20W/m K thermal pad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl2SruLCfxg

[chris1892006]

@netblock Hi bruh, how you been doing? Hey I got a question. How do I define the slave address i2c for VDDCI & MVDDC in the 5600M bios? I"d love to know the VRM temperature. It's 224 on 5600 xt right? How about 5700 XT? Update - I checked if you change the VDDCI VR & MVDDC VR slave address from 228 to 224, you can monitor the VDDCI & MVDDC VRM temperature in HWINFO. Is it IR35217? This is on the DELL G5 SE 5505 laptop. Is there a schematic for my motherboard?

Which chip is your guess on the VGA BIOS Chip? I need to CH341A my laptop to fix the flash ability of the chip.

[netblock]

I have no idea for most of your questions.

My reference 5700 has VDDCI and MVDD on 228 and I see the VDDCI and VDDIO temps by default.

[chris1892006]

Thanks for taking the time to discuss these bios editing matters. Have a great day.

[chris1892006]

@netblock I cannot open yaabe in safe mode & there is a tiny issue with displaying the results of i2c protocol.

[netblock]

there is a tiny issue with displaying the results of i2c protocol.

Fixed the i2c thing there with d08d9d7. But that won't come out until 0.11.0. Thanks for letting me know though!

I cannot open yaabe in safe mode

I'll look into this. I think it might be related to the MSYS2 environment; but if it isn't I'm not sure if there's anything I could do.

[chris1892006]

there is a tiny issue with displaying the results of i2c protocol.

Fixed the i2c thing there with d08d9d7. But that won't come out until 0.11.0. Thanks for letting me know though!

I cannot open yaabe in safe mode

I'll look into this. I think it might be related to the MSYS2 environment; but if it isn't I'm not sure if there's anything I could do.

I tested all old versions and they all open except for the 0.10.0 version. v0.10.0 doesn't cut out when resetting display driver though so its superior in that way over all old versions but for some reason it's using a graphics API because RTSS pops up.

[chris1892006]

I tested 0 loadlinerestance vs 255.996 loadlineresistance, and 255.996 milli Ohm provides lower temps and higher frequency & better fps.
0 gfx soc loadlineresistance

255.996 gfx soc loadlineresistance

[chris1892006]

@netblock Yo, sup brother? I got a question I know we have gone over this but I really need to learn what each value does what for ThermalAction under CustomThermalPolicyArray?
So far I found any min temperature value and max temperature with thermalaction set to 1, instant shutdown with sppt.
Also if using value 100 thermalaction with 83 min temp and 84 max temp, it throttles the temperature & it doesn't exceed the temperature.
Advice? Thanks

ChatGPT came up with this, I think it's incorrect.